The coming of the white imams
It strikes me that there is a ‘new breed’ of Imams. The ‘white Imams’. You read about these white reverts to Islam and they go off on world tours giving talks/lectures/speaches and so forth. Due to their frequency, it’s not so difficult to get yourself along to one. If you get the chance to ‘come on down’ please do so.
One thing in particular that concerns me is their deadly silence (and/or ignorance) on the massive and overwhelming source of global strife today. The policy makers in the White house, Capitol Hill, Downing Street, and to some degree the Elysee palace, the Kremlin and sittings of the National People’s Congress in Beijing and in New Delhi, World Bank and International Monetary Fund and Bank of Internati0onal Settlements.
These very small numbers of people inflict unspeakable horrors upon the majority of the earths 6.7 billion people on the earth today, be it via:
@ White mans wars
@ Riba based Economics
@ Economic booms and busts (occasionally engineered I would argue) chiefly lead by a ghoulish thirst for profit at all costs
@ Acquisition of traditionally owned lands gifted to industry
@ Continual economic oppression which may entrap a country into growing endless interest rate repayments
@ Massive global pollution
@ Genetic ‘research’ tried to make itself palatable using the excuse of being in the name of medicine
@ GM food
@ Nuclear waste, nuclear accidents and nuclear weapons
@ The looming peak oil crisis.
@ Political meddling interference
@ Conglomerate abuse by monopolisation
@ Famine throughout the world and reasons for it’s existence
It is extremely rare to come across the ‘white imams’ mentioning any of these things, 2 second ‘touch then go’ references don’t count. Why are the imams so blind to these factors? and to me they are blind, massively so! - which concerns me greatly. In fact, it makes alarm bells go off in my head every time I see a white Imam failing to address such issues. These Imams have Charisma (natural, learned or taught?) and so they can open the doors to many hearts, and these white imams are very, very intellectually capable people. The have become very strong in Arabic, they seem to have memorised the Qur’an, they have read loads of discourses and treatises on Islam.
Why then do they display a near complete ignorance of undeniably the greatest source of misery and strife on the planet today? Why is the large body of significant questions about 911, inc. evidence e.g. thermate particles, explosions BEFORE impact, etc, simply ignored by these people, yet instead they say Muslims should stand up and reject terrorism – doing so with obvious reference to what we have been told is Al Qaeda? i.e. “Muslims did it!” Actually examination of 911 suggests most strongly it was the work of non-Muslims, or at least non-Muslims allowed to happen.
Not only that but it was the work of mainly non-Muslims who started to uncover the official lies/conspiracy of 911. Muslims scepticism of 911 came after the initial trailblazing path of those 911 truth activists e.g. Dave Von Kleist, Alex Jones, George Humphrey, Eric Huffschmidt, Thierry Meyssan, Massimo Mazzucco, Barrie Zwicker, David Icke, Dylan Avery, Paul Thompson, Ray McGovern, Steve Jones, Barry Jennings, William Rodriguez, etc.. Muslims who look at the work of those non-Muslims and go on to draw their own conclusions are then in effect chastised for doing so and so become victims once more, not just at the hands of the USUK killing machine and hired killers such as Blackwater and Aegis (or whatever they have changed their name to these days)
To have the white Imams do this is like applying a cat-o-nine-tails upon the Muslims and to me is quite disturbing if not offensive. Why assist the USUK in its “crusade” as BuSh put it, in the ‘Coalition of the Killings’ orgy of slaugher?
Let’s us also not forget that there has also not been what coudl seriously be called a criminal trial of those so called Muslim terrorists.
If you’d rather avoid 911, Why do they not denounce the bankers and multinationals that impoverish and economically enslave billions throughout the world??? Why do they not devote ‘public liaison time’ to this crucial issue?
Instead they denounce “Muslim extremists” and never the leviathan that is state sponsored terror, which eclipses supposed “Muslim extremist acts of terror”. And of course “Muslim extremist” is a relativism. If your family is killed by white phosphorous and snipers in Fallujah, it is perfectly understandable that you may decide to take certain actions of revenge. How can these people be called terrorists yet what causes such acts virtually never get a mention. In criticising the Muslims, they take focus away from the massive crimes of the non-Muslims.
I’m going to name some ‘white imams’ e.g. Shoaib Webb, Yusef Estas and Hamza Yusuf, (the former two I have attended talks thereof)
I asked Yusef Estas about why have we become tolerant of and live within secularism? He said we as Muslims are not ready to follow a non-secular order, we don’t even accept the rulings of religious leaders on issues of Yoga. He spent absolutely no attention as to WHY MUSLIMS ARE SECULAR, but he did criticise those who don’t want to be secular. I think he called them ‘nut jobs’ or words t that effect.
I said to Imam Shaoib Webb something like “Assalamualaikum.
I’m not a scholar, so I don’t know what you’ll make of my opinion. You
mentioned oppression and legitimacy of fighting against that oppression. If you
read Howard Zinn’s “A history of the American People”, [the correct title is
"A People's History of the
After I sat down, my head was abuzz with regret for fluffing the Q somethat and not putting the question better and failing to include his reference of HOPE about Obama. Brother Shoaib had recounted a story where he was warned by concerned Christians to vote Democrat i.e. for Al Gore in the 2000 US election, (for the Jan 2001 inauguration) to stop Bush and the crazy Neocons from entering the oval office. I wanted to bring to his attention that just the other day, the US drones had again bombed and killed tens of people (the US calls such acts a ’strike against Islamic militants or Taliban or Al Queda’) and that Obama had legitimised many of these bombings killing perhaps a thousand people already. As a result of this post-question regret, I listened to his comment, but didn’t get the FULL detail of it, however he largely sidestepped the major issue and said he hasn’t a problem with the Palestinians resisting.
His Islamic knowledge is solar systems beyond mine, but IMHO, all that knowledge is put to extremely poor use, and doesn’t help the Muslim cause as it could.
People like the ‘white imams’ should be out campaigning for Muslims to get back to Muslim currency, demanding an END OF STATE SPONSORED TERRORISM, advocating direct action. Instead to saying things like “Muslims should not make declarations because they haven’t studied Islam, they arn’t scholars, don’t understand when a verse was revealed, to whom it applied and what time in history it came from”, completely oblivious that such verses are surely included in the Qur’an (and not a one time job only) as lessons to apply for the rest of humanity, in other words, these ‘don’t speak, you’re not a scholar’ people themselves seem likely to misunderstand the entirety of what’s in the Qur’an. They aren’t applying the Quran to life today in terms of the gross problems I listed above, but they will if that application will not put those majot issues under the spotlight.
The white imams continually advocate micro/inner analysis and perspectives on life, and don’t look at the big picture, much to their shame.
As I finish this post, I am wondering am I being so fair in singling out these ‘white imams’ people? Well, given that they have cosy/cordial/friendly chats with mudering scum and blatant liars such as Tony Blair (as Sheikh Hamza Yusuf did) and have lunch with BuSh in the White house as Bush said “This is not a war against Islam” thereby due to the Muslims presence with Bush, pacifying perfectly a justifiable Muslim outrage against BuSh and the Neocon filth. That a tragedy, what an appalling thing to be associated with. So my focus on them is justified. Other not of the ‘white imam’ quadrant also do the same, however as mentioned the ‘white imams’ have Charisma and extra influence and in my book, greater responsibility to do what is right.
So I appeal to ‘white imams’, men of great Islamic knowledge, stop judging things by western standards. See and denounce strongly in public, the real reason why the planet is in a state of fitna and near jahillia. Those in the seats of power across most of the industrialised world.
Update: Oh, and imams, you could lend your silky verbal
skills to this too: “Ahmed is one of several British citizens and residents who
have alleged British complicity in their torture in
July 9, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Oh, this is interesting.
“White imams” are ignoring the major crisis faced by Muslims all over the world.
Perhaps they do not want to be assassinated?
I heard of a few if not many daring speakers being assassinated, or punished by the authority.
That even happened in
(That reminds me of a few posts i wanna do which i hv been procrastinating for so long)
July 9, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Actually strange that you mention assassination, as at the
Imam Shoaib talk, it was said (by others) that there had been a recent
assassination attempt on a Christian minister/priest in
But later, I started thinking about the corporate mainstream media (MSM) and how they like to portray this kind of thing (as did Yusef Estes and Imam Shoaib to varying degrees) that there are innocent people out there, who are just randomly blown up or shot for no apparent reason. I may be alone here, but I find it EXTREMEMLY difficult to accept that Muslims do such random acts of violence. If those Muslims were controlling a state, then I could accept it a bit more.
I am very aware that there have been times when it’s the enemies of the Muslims who do such things making it look like it’s Muslims.
Still, who really knows for sure???
Also Imam Shoaib mentioned about a group of Muslims who tried to take over the Kabah (in the 80’s I think) and he said they killed people. But when I was in the UK, I had some very knowledgeable friends tell me the Saudi forces killed men who tried to liberate Mecca from the House of Saud, and when you know the Saud’s are the strongest allies-cum-puppets of the US and US (they uses to allow US military bases and Towns in Arabia) then I really hesitate to accept brother Shoiabs account.
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