Unveiling the Islamic veil, Part 1
Tuesday, 07 July 2009 05:26
A scientific and legal unraveling of the Islamic requirements for veiling the Muslim women and sequestering for violent punishments for adultery, and also for the Muslim women from being allowed to see only through one eye for the fear that the two female eyes will be so attractive that they will turn men into beasts..
Not being a One-Eyed Woman
This article is a fatwa to unveil the veil. I hope, it will contribute toward liberating the Muslim Women from the violent and lethal punishments for adultery, liberty to free will, equal rights to education and standards of living!
This is an explanatory article for Muslims and non-Muslims alike. For Muslim women, this article is set out as a valid religious opinion on the status of the veil and its more oppressive forms of physical suppressions of women; for Non-Muslim women, its grounds are human commonsense and compassion. It includes scientific and biological arguments, which are valid for all human beings traversing all cultures, and which have implications for the practices of Islam as well as others???
In religious terms, this is a fatwa rejecting the claim that in Islamic teachings, women are required to wear the full-veil, or that it is desirable to do so by cowardly females. It has come about now, because a Saudi cleric has called on Muslim women to wear full-veil or niqab that reveals only one eye. Sheikh Muhammad al-Habadan, an influential conservative cleric, who was answering questions on the Muslim satellite channel, Al-Majd, said:
‘by showing both the eyes, encourages women to use eye make-up to look seductive and alluring. Although the one-eyed niqab is part of an older tradition, noted in the hadiths. When a religion gets to the point of issuing a command that half the people on the planet are to be allowed to see only through one eye, whenever they go out in the world, it brings that religion into disrepute...? To cut out one eye from being able to perceive the world at large, is an assault on the most basic integrity and autonomy of the human being. The need to cover the woman entirely comes from a mistaken notion that because women are beautiful and attractive; they are entirely awrah (woman’s sexual parts), and thus must be entirely concealed, even to covering one eye or they will pose a shameful threat to themselves and to their family, through being uncontrollably attractive to strange men... This is an assault, not only on women, the sex who bear the living generations of humanity, but on men, social trust, the natural world, and our access to it. It stands alongside dire punishments such as stoning women for adultery, which are an affront to the bismillah “Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate”. Neither niqab, nor stoning, are in the Qur’an, so it is a time to take stock and make the way clear, so women will not continue to be oppressed’…
Having two eyes is a fundamental adaptation of all living organisms; am I right in this claim? There is not one animal that has only one eye, from vertebrates through insects to molluscs. Having two eyes while out in the world is pivotal for survival, because it enables binocular depth perceptions… If Allah (the great?) gave all beings two eyes, then what was it good for and what are the reasons for this sort of forbearing?
It is inconceivable that Allah would deny it to the females of the human race, who bear the live young for the continuity of human race. Simply for this reason, they are must be attractive to men; for the generations to prosper and to survive, women play a pivotal part in the reproduction processes. To deny this right to women, because they may be attractive to men, is a diabolical punishment, invented by nothing but purely eccentric male jealousy only! And hmmmmm…, the same is Allah’s thinking, too?
A fatwa is a religious opinion on the laws by Islamic scholars; and above all, it is also by the god of Islam! The clarity and authority of this argument stems from our broad scholarly experience of the Christian, Jewish, pre-Islamic and present Islamic cultural and religious traditions, without being bound to the restrictions or beliefs, imposed by one sect or traditions… such as Shia’h or Sunni or any other sects. The argument is also clear, in terms of natural biology and female reproductive choices, as a foundation for the emergence and evolution of the human intelligence and the passage of the generations to come. In Quranic terms, this fatwa is a ‘clear argument’, in terms of Surah 43:61-63 concerning Isa (Esau) , to “make clear to you part of what you differ in”.
While the conservative scholars try to finesse the Qur’an and Hadiths together (see later) into a tortuous justification for imposing these assaults on the Muslim women’s sovereignty, all independent authorities confirm, there is no basis for these restrictive claims by Islam... Moreover the idea that Allah, prefers women veiled or that a Muslim woman’s entire body or that everything, except her face and hands, is awrah (pudenda) to be ashamed of or that the women needs to be veiled to protect themselves from the ravages of men, and society from immorality, is a false teaching, used by Muslim males to control the Muslim female’s sexual and reproductive choices, and to limit the Muslim women’s access to educational, social and political independence?
The dehumanization of a personal identity, God did not ordain that women, who are the bearers of the generations of humanity, should be reduced to depersonalized ghosts…!.
Does the Quran Require Muslim Women to be Veiled?
The internet encyclopedia About.Com poses the following question:4 ‘Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil?’
One of the most visibly contentious issues for Islam in the Western world is the women's wearing of veil. To so-called westerner conservatives, the veil is a symbol of oppression. To majority of Muslims, it is a symbol of an empowerment, both for its explicit rejections of the Western values and its implicit meanings as a status symbol: many Muslims women see the veil as a sign of distinction, the more so because it evokes a connection to the Prophet Muhammad and his wives. But does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves with a veil, a chador or any other such forms of head covering?
Answer: The quick
answer is a relevant NO! -The Quran has no such requirements that any
Muslim women need to cover their faces with a veil, or to cover their whole
bodies with the full-body burqa or chador; as it is mandatory in
But the Quran does address the matter of veiling in such ways that, it has been interpreted historically if not necessarily correctly, by Muslim clerics as applying to all women kind... The veiling of the Muslim women was not an Islamic innovation but a Persian and the Byzantine-Christian customs that Islam had adopted. For most of Islam’s history, the veil in its various forms of bodily coverings was seen as a sign of distinction and self-protection for the upper-class Muslim women. Since the 19th century, the veil has come to represent more assertive, self-consciously Islamic expressions, sometimes in reaction to Western currents: colonialism, modernism, feminism.
Initially in Muhammad's lifetime, the veil was not an issue.
His wives didn't wear it, nor did he order that other women in
A History of the Prophet’s Statements on the Veil
Wiebke Walther 6 notes 7: ‘Closely connected with the veil is the exclusion of women from public life, based on a verse in the Koran which refers only to the wives of the Prophet’:
When ye ask them (i.e. the wives of the Prophet) for any article, ask them from behind a curtain; that is purer for your hearts and for theirs” (Surah 33: 53, 55)
An Arab historical work, dating from the ninth century, claims this revelation originated at the marriage of Muhammad to the beautiful Zaynab Bint Jahsh the former wife of his adopted son Zayd Ibn Haritha. Muhammad, had once seen Zaynab in her undergarments as he was about to enter Zayd's house and had coveted her from then on. Zayd wanted to divorce her immediately so that Muhammad could marry her, but Muhammad did not want to accept Zayd's offer.
But then Zaynab had been married with Zayd against her will and now displayed a clear lack of affection for him. In the end, her marriage with Muhammad took place. Towards the end of the wedding feast, the guests showed no signs of departing. This shows that Zaynab's attractiveness for her guests was considered to have been very great! Muhammad impatiently left the room several times and went out into the courtyard, hoping that he would finally be left alone with his new bride. But this was not the case. It was now that the verse quoted above was revealed to him’ Mohammed fell in love with this woman and asked Zayd to divorce her and he married her in the year 628 CE. She was 38 years old. The Koran Surah 33-37 gives the prophet the right to marry his adopted son’s wife as an example to those that should follow:
When Zayd had accomplished his want of her, we gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah’s command shall be performed. (Q 33.37)
Two Muslim opinions that universal veiling and curtaining of women is not prescribed
"the so-called legal scholars assume positions that it is categorically forbidden for a woman to travel by herself for any purpose, so you mean to tell me that all these masters, who were women Imams, who traveled the Muslim world, they were teachers in public -some of them were on the minbar (mosque pulpit) themselves" ..."And her face was uncovered?" "Was she old? Some say when a woman is very, very old" "No she was very young".
"The women of Medinan society were more revolutionary than their granddaughters in the modern Muslim world.” Dr. Tariq Suwaidan: “In many places in the Muslim world, tradition has taken over ... If we take a deep look at what was practiced in the life of the Prophet... then we will see very clearly that there were no walls or curtains separating men from women except in one case and that is the wives of Muhammad ... unfortunately many of the scholars and later on many of the masses have taken what is for the wives of the Prophet (our mothers) and applied it to all Muslim women and thus should not talk to them except from behind a separation like a curtain.”
“O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful” (Surah 33.59).’
This does not say specifically that a Hijab, or more extreme covering of everything, but the eyes, or one eye, such as niqab, or burqa, is obligatory. Nor can one fairly claim this is a command of God, or al-Llah, because it has an origin in simple propriety when going to the toilet. Moreover there are clearly major differences of interpretation and cultural expectations of dress style among Muslims in the world today, so it cannot be mandatory in Islam, nor the will of God. Islamic opinion and the translations of this passage are varied and used in misleading ways to imply face cover. In a web site advocating the niqab the verse is first translated as follows:
‘O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks ("Jalabib") veils all over their bodies (screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way Tafseer Al-Qurtabi) that is most convenient that they should be known (as such) and not molested and Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful."
The Arabic text of this ayat is, "Ya ayyuha an-Nabi, qul li azwajika wa banatika wa nisa al-muminin yudnina alayhinna min jalabib hinna; dhalika adna an yu'rafna fa laa yu'dhayn. Wa kana Allahu Ghafur ar-Rahim", which literally translates as:-
"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (jalabib) close around themselves; that is better that they are recognized and not annoyed. And God is Most Forgiving, Merciful".
There are actually a number of opinions given in this tafsir about what to "draw their jalabib close around themselves" means. Among these are, "she should bring the jilbab close to her face without covering it" (reported by ibn Abbas in this tafsir of Tabari, and graded as sahih by Shaykh Albani); and, "Others believe that the women have been directed to secure their jalabib firmly on their foreheads" (commentary of Tabari in his tafsir of this ayat). Thus we can see that it is a valid opinion that the jilbab does not have to cover the face?
An early Arabian historian explains that Muhammad's wives
had been bothered by his opponents in
Thus there is no valid claims, that can be made by the Islamic scholars that the veil is somehow ordained or preferred by Allah or that women are pudenda over their entire body and so must be secluded and their shame be covered, even to the extent that they can see only through one eye? It is simply a tradition that Muhammad instituted for his wives, both out of impatience at undue interests in a new wife he desired to consummate his marriage with, and a concern at the vulnerability of his own many wives in public. These are the very last reasons, as to why a woman should give credence to or to justify these impositions upon their autonomy, of a requirement to cover themselves from head to toe.
The most eminent tafsirs (exegesis) writer, Ibn Kathir comments on this verse: Here Allah tells His Messenger to command the believing women -especially his wives and daughters, because of their position of honour -to draw their Jibes over their bodies, so that they will be distinct in their appearance from the women of the Jahiliyyah and from slave women. The Jilbab is a Rida', worn over the Khimar. This was the view of Ibn Mas'ud, 'Ubaydah, Qatadah, Al-Hasan Al-Basri, Sa'id bin Jubayr, Ibrahim An-Nakha'i, 'Ata' Al-Khurasani and others. It is like the Izar used today. Al-Jawhari said: "The Jilbab is the outer wrapper... 'Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn 'Abbas said that Allah commanded the believing women, when they went out of their houses for some need, to cover their faces from above their heads with the Jilbab, leaving only one eye showing. Muhammad bin Sirin said, "I asked 'Ubaydah As-Salmani about the Ayat: (to draw their Jalabib over their bodies.) He covered his face and head, with just his left eye showing.'' (That will be better that they should be known so as not to be annoyed) means, if they do that, it will be known that they are free, and that they are not servants or whores.
However the flip-side of this ruling is dire and violent: NOT wearing the hijab equates a woman under the Quran and under the Islamic laws to mere slaves or whores... They are thus considered as meat for abuse, or even rapes!!! When a violent rape of non-Muslim Australian girls by young Muslim men took place in 2007 in Australia, Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, the nation's most senior Muslim cleric, compared immodestly-dressed women, who do not wear the Islamic headdress, with ‘meat that is left uncovered in the street and is then eaten by cats’:
Addressing 500 worshippers on the topic of adultery, Sheik al-Hilali added: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it… whose fault is it -the cats or the uncovered meat?” "The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab (veil), no problem would have occurred."
In outlining the sexual discriminations in even the Quranic provisions, these restrictions on the Muslim women's modesty, are far more detailed and severe than for Muslim men:
Men: “Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is Aware of what they do” (Surah 24.30).
Women: “And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess [slaves], or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! So that you may be successful” (Surah 24.31).
Essentially Muslim women are regarded as sexually so provocative and sensual that, unless they are completely regulated they will either entice Muslim men into fornication or they will become helpless victims of male ardour! This is confirmed by the way a Muslim woman who is no longer sexually enticing is exempted:
“And (as for) women advanced in years who do not hope for a marriage, it is no sin for them if they put off their clothes without displaying their ornaments; and if they restrain themselves it is better for them; Allah is Hearing, Knowing” (Surah 24.60).
Thus the source of veiling and chaperoning is the idea that the Muslim men cannot control their sexual desires and that this is a Muslim woman’s fault for being ‘shameful enticing pudenda over her entire body’, so that even if it is covered entirely by an abaya with only their two eyes showing, the beauty of their eyes alone might seduce a Muslim man who is not their husband, brother, father, or uncle; essentially and centrally a defence of tribal honour, so that a Muslim woman should have to see only through one eye wherever she goes, outside the seclusion of the zenana, or women’s quarter in their homes...
To be continued in Part 2
jenniffer - unveiling the islamic veil part 1 |2009-07-07 08:38:07
The best way to keep a woman oppressed is by making her to cover up with bed sheets. That prevents her from getting a job, an education and a life of her own. Islam is nothing but a cruel cult
Apostate... - Twisting facts |2009-07-07 21:39:19
While I often like Mr. James' well-researched articles, he sometimes, out of his 'whatever', makes the best effort to twist facts or misread them to make Islam what it is not, more humane. This article is one such.
About veiling, historically it was never an issue that faced opposition on religious and legal grounds until the modern times. Great scholars like Ibn Kathir says Islamic veiling (33:59) demands that face should be covered.
Let us consider the three translations of 33:39:
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
These translations say when out of homes, women must:
1) 'cast their outer garments over their persons'
2) 'draw their cloaks close round them'
3) 'they let down upon them their over-garments'
Here, only the third translation is a bit confusing: it is either asking for letting the veil come down from the head downward, or that it is asking them to throw it away---the latter can't be the case.
In the first case, Allah commanding Muslims to cast the veil over "their person", i.e. 'their body'. It seems for Mr. James, eyes, face etc. are not part of the body, but hands, legs, heads etc. are.
The second case is similar as the first case: women must draw the veil around them, i.e. their body, whatever are the part of it.
The most grotesque misreading, or twisting, of fact by Mr. James is the picture of travelling medieval female imam---who, he says, is travelling alone & "unveiled". That's what one may see in this picture only when one is blind.
In this picture the woman is inside a clock, something like a palankin, but drawn in a transparent way to make her visible from outside: she is in fact sitting inside a prison-like tent, totally invisible to passers-by.
We can obviously see she is not alone too. At least, two persons behind are escorting her---one of them is an unveiled woman, must be a slave-girl.
mhw |2009-07-07 08:57:57
In the first part of the discuss (One eyed..) the author says that the Isa of the Koran is Esau. I think the normalized view is that Isa is Jesus. I'd like someone to correct me if I am wrong on this.
Chris Octon - The Prophet? |2009-07-07 13:40:59
When did it become common practice to refer to the founder of Islam as "The Prophet". I can see that in Muslim countries this would be normal but yet we see it in Christian countries too on TV in the newspapers etc. If you are Christian or even not a Muslim then he plainly is most certainly not your prophet. In fact it is impossible to be a Christian and even recognize him as a prophet. So why not refer to him as the person followers of Islam believe to be their prophet. I am sure that the media in Muslim countries do not refer to Jesus as the "son of God".
Philip Saenz - Islam, Also The Weirdest Religion |2009-07-07 14:48:20
Islam is not only the cruelest and the most violent religion in the world, it is also the weirdest. Imagine, the God of Love, the True God, gave women two eyes for good reason. However, Satan/Allah, the god of the Muslims comes along and tells Muslim male fanatics that women must show and use only one eye.
The God of Love, the True God also gave women a clitoris, but Satan/Allah, the god of the Muslims tells the wicked Muslims to cut off a girl's clitoris. Now, do you see why I prove once again that Allah isn't the True God, the God of Love, the God of the Christians and Jews?
Chris Octon, I'm sorry that I have to correct you. Since paedophile, child abuser, child rapist, slave owner, wife beater, polygamist, adulterer, murderer Muhammad was all the above, we must not refer to him as a prophet but as a false prophet. Muhammad was the child of Satan/Allah, and working for Satan/Allah as a false prophet.
Muhammad was worse than the atheist Adolph Hitler, the atheist Benito Mussolini, the atheist Joseph Stalin, and the atheist Mao Tze Tung combined. In other words, false prophet Muhammad was extremely evil, and millions of people are still suffering because of him.
I especially feel sorry for the Muslim women who are stoned to death by the evil sadistic Muslims, and for little girls who are legally raped by scraggly old Muslim male sex perverts in backward Muslim Third World Countries. I can't understand why these wild Muslim beasts, who rape little girls, don't at least shave their ugly beards that are probably full of lice. These poor little girls probably have nightmares every night. No doubt it's a living hell for them, but can depraved Muslim male rapists show pity? There is no chance of that since these Muslim animals are sadists, and sadists enjoy hurting others.
P. S. WE MUST DESTROY ISLAM BEFORE ISLAM DESTROYS US.
Victorio - you are so rigth |2009-07-08 02:04:19
So few people know the life of Mo, at least described in the Hadits and the Sira. Whether it is historically correct it is irrelevant, what matters is what people believe and consider accurate for their faith.
Theses book really describe a monster:
pedophile, slave owner, wife beater, polygamist, adulterer, murderer indeed, and your forget torturer and sexual pervert too. None of the big "messengers"
Socrates, Jesus, Buddha, Confusius, Zarathustra etc have displayed such flaws of character.
1) What type of teaching can come from such individual ?
2) Given that poor Muslims are brain washed in thinking he was The perfect man and his life should be emulated - What type of behavior do we expect from Islamic countries toward us and Muslim immigrants ?
The problem is that the official medias and governments, for unknown reason, try to hide theses facts and keep us in total ignorance about the evil of this cult.
Just by revealing the true nature of the beast, which is easy just read the "holy" books, we could protect us.
Information is our best weapon and the mullahs know it
that is why they try to kill free speech. The sad truth is 90% of Muslims do not even know their own scriptures, if they knew a great deal of them would convert out of it
The two-eyed weirdo! |2009-07-07 15:00:03
Man.. this has gotta be the heights of depravity. These ladies might as well have an lcd screen inside and use a camera to watch whats happening on the outside!
What next mullahs? The poor women gotta wear a pirate's patch on the other eye?
Humanity - Muhammed's madness |2009-07-07 15:36:13
The list of cruelty brought by this pathetic cult is unparalleled in history. Almost 1/5th of humanity is mentally ill and want to spread this illness brings shivers.
Any non-muslim telling islam is religion of peace is either moron or fooling others. Its the worst evil on earth.
Kafirist - Mohammad the prophet |2009-07-07 16:01:00
Of course Mohammed is the prophet of God. How do I know? Because Mohammed said so.
And the Quran is the literal word of God, too. How do I know? Because Mohammed said so.
What more proof do you need?
Jim SE Texas |2009-07-07 18:52:45
Kafirist, That's good enough for me. Now let's walk down the street waiting for someone to insult us, then chop their head off. Here, wear this rag on your head.
Philip Saenz - Gosh! |2009-07-08 00:02:52
Kafirist, Gosh, why didn't I think of that? I'll have to remember that. You're a great philosopher. Gosh! You would make the perfect teacher in a Muslim Madrassah.
Jim SE Texas, I see you're a fellow Texan. It's good to have neighbors like you. You mention "rag." That's not any rag that Muslim women or young girls must wear on their heads lest their husbands or fathers murder them. It's a "Muslim rag."
vbv |2009-07-08 00:37:26
If this Allah thought so lowly of the female species to the extent of not trusting their morals,why did he create the feminine species to make their lives so unfulfilling,so desolate,so miserable that the male species would go wild if they even see both the eyes of a woman? Ridiculous aint it? This only shows that religion and god are man-made in which the scheme is to show woman and woman-hood in poor light,subjugate them,humiliate them ,enslave them and ultimate treat them as below the dignity ofv men! Allah ,his prophets ,including the biblical patriarchs were pure male chauvinist PIGS! And muslim women are totally zombified to believe all this crap and bullshits to be the literal 'word' of their 'creator' Allah! Some indeed is this fucked-up fictional misogynistic skunk !
kmgy |2009-07-08 07:19:07
Islam reduces women into virtual prisoners.
balam - burka |2009-07-08 07:26:28
It isthe psychological nature of man to lust more for things hidden.In remote jungles of South America and even in Africa ,Women walk about bare breasted without any inhibistion and fear of being raped.Probably because there are no Muslims around.Mohammad always found the solutions to the problems he faced by revealing to Allah what he wanted and dictated to his scribes who would oblige,sometimes with modifications which Mohammad could not know because he was illiterate and Allah would not intervene because there was no such thing as Allah.It was a good trick of deception by Mohammad-the messenger/postman of immaginary Arabian pagan deity called allah.Mohammad,probably had become impotent and to protect his wives from being molested,he cleverly devised burka-a curse for the future generation of Muslim women.
TrueMuslim - Allah's blessing |2009-07-08 11:22:39
You morons, women should be subjugated. They are just sex object and nothing else. Islam gives the tool for enjoyment. Your wife is like slave, you can beat them, can demand sex anytime in any way. If you want more you can marry 4 women. Infact in Muslim society a parent with more than 1 daughter marries all of them to single person. See how much it helps the father all 4 problems finished in one marriage. Also the sisters can stay together even after marriage.
The women should fear his husband, he can just say 'talak, talak , talak' game finished for women.
He can blame her for adultery and she can be stoned, thats why muslim women are in control and very few divorces (another benefit).
There is a legal provision of temporary marriages also
(allah is so merciful), the poor girls can get some money and rich muslims can
enjoy them. A beautiful women can earn a lot of money legally with temporary
marriages. Mullahs are very good in that they keep a album of the beauties and
help the rich guys in the temporary marriages. In
All males accept Islam and enjoy the beauty of Islam.
i agree......i reverted back t - i agree......i reverted back to islam to make out |2009-07-09 01:24:35
i agree......i reverted back to islam to make out with babes.
beside i actually married my wife and also her younger sister,and i enjoy threesome all the time,and they cant complain else they r out and new women r in.
i am a wealthy guy so can even afford mutta marriage.and i am not so old at age 40.
finally i will get the 72 virgins in jannat.
now which religion gives so much fun ????
jai ho !!!!!
Sam - I do not endorse the article in its entity |2009-07-09 14:36:37
"This article is a fatwa to unveil the veil. I hope, it will contribute toward liberating the Muslim Women from the violent and lethal punishments for adultery, liberty to free will, equal rights to education and standards of living!"
- Lennard James
"It isthe psychological nature of man to lust more for things hidden.In remote jungles of South America and even in Africa ,Women walk about bare breasted without any inhibistion and fear of being raped."
In my opinion, neither argument, from balam, Mr. James or from fanatical Muslims seeks really to win because of some blatant logical disparites. You are all wrong in either way and proof will follow after my dissecation.
First, you men wouldn't let your women go nude outside and neither let them practice their "free of will" rampantly. We all should agree that women MUST respect certain rules and value honor. Otherwise some people [http://wuphys.wustl.edu/~katz/terror.html] will be disappointed.
It's also hard to dispute that women make themselves sex objects and use men as their personal tools (authors Esther Vilar, Van Creveld and Warren Farrell are an enlightening read). Just as fanatical Muslims are dangerous, we are at risk of the equally fanatical "cult of the vagina". Every year we men kill more buddies and commit suicide under women instigators due to adultery and women-led false accusations than jihad terrorrists. It's very true that "the vagina is the world's most powerful political weapon".
If women were instinctively puritane their vests wouldn't be a problem. But women tend to overcome men using sex and tactics against our fragile instincts, Arthur Schopenhauer argued. How many men do you know who had their lives ruined because of cruel and provocative sexy women? A lot I bet. The Muslim, in reality, are correct in proposing the hijab but its imposition is bad. Muslim men also suffer from a lot of heavy Shari'a impositions only for males and the authority power handed to them is easily converted into more responsabilities, albeit many of us aren't so quick and eager to answer.
To argue the contrary is like blowing out hot air in an embracement of moral relativism.
Ultimately, muslims are right in their dislike of the Ocident due to its pool of rampant depravity, promiscuity, abortions of holocaust proportions, and democracy for demagogy. And you are to a point correct in condeming their violation of the right to free will.
About the tribes that bahal mentioned above, men are educated from birth in order to not deify women and women are equally educated in order to do not provoke men with sexy attitudes. Dating is rigorously controlled and they generally carry severe punitions against transgressing men and women.
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